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Leveling guide, 10 to 60

Subtlety Rogue

Build at 60
5/14/32
Time to 60
16% less than no talents
Key talent
Riposte at 36
Status
Early

Overview

Subtlety Rogue puts 32 points into Subtlety, 14 points into Combat and 5 points into Assassination by level 60, with no respec on the way.

Key talents: Riposte at 36.

By our sim, this build gets you from 10 to 60 in about 16% less time than playing with no talents.

At level 40 most of your ability damage comes from Eviscerate (36%), Sinister Strike (33%) and Ambush (27%).

Talent tree

Drag the level to watch the build grow. Tap a talent for what it does.
5 / 14 / 32 · this level: Serrated Blades 3
Assassination5
Combat14
Subtlety32
Tap a talent to see its tooltip and why it is in the build.

Talent calculator code: 005-32203301-5323223312213

Talent order

Each talent gets a tier for how much it helps this build level, by our sim: S best, A strong, B solid, C small, Filler needed to reach deeper talents.

  1. 10-11
    Improved Sinister Strike 1-2 S
    Combat. S tier: one of this build's best points for leveling.
  2. 12-16
    Malice 1-5 B
    Assassination. B tier: a solid point for leveling.
  3. 17-18
    Opportunity 1-2 B
    Subtlety. B tier: a solid point for leveling.
  4. 19-24
    First, filler points:
    • Camouflage 1-3
    Improved Ambush 1-3 A
    Subtlety, at level 22. A tier: a strong point for leveling.
  5. 25-30
    First, filler points:
    • Improved Eviscerate 1-3C
    Precision 1-3 A
    Combat, at level 28. A tier: a strong point for leveling.
  6. 31-36
    First, filler points:
    • Lightning Reflexes 1-2
    • Deflection 1-3
    Riposte 1 C
    Combat, at level 36. C tier: a small gain for leveling.
  7. 37-38
    Camouflage 4-5 Filler
    Subtlety. Filler: little value on its own, but it moves you down the tree.
  8. 39-41
    Master of Deception 1-3 Filler
    Subtlety. Filler: little value on its own, but it moves you down the tree.

Rotation

  1. Eviscerate
    finisher at 5 combo points
  2. Sinister Strike
    combo point builder
  3. Ambush
    opener
  4. Riposte
    after a parry

Share of your ability damage

  • Eviscerate36%
  • Sinister Strike33%
  • Ambush27%
  • Riposte5%

What our sim found levels best at this level with this build: DoTs once per mob, cooldowns on cooldown, and the rest on your best filler. Auto attacks are always on, so they are not listed.

Stat priority

Stamina > Agility > Attack power > Strength > Spirit

  • Stamina1.00
  • Agility0.59
  • Attack power0.43
  • Strength0.41
  • Spirit0.09

1% hit is worth about 5 Stamina. 1% crit is worth about 3 Stamina.

Stat values like Pawn: point for point, your best stat is 1.00 and the rest are worth that share of it. MP5 is mana regen per 5 seconds, as item tooltips show it. Your own gear shifts these: the Character page works them out for you.

Tips

  • This build assumes daggers. Talents for other weapon types are skipped.
  • Watch for Riposte: it only lights up after a parry, and it is cheap damage.
  • At level 40, for the same item budget, Stamina helps most, then attack power. Look for gear with those first.
  • Some points (Lightning Reflexes, Deflection and Master of Deception and others) are filler to reach the next tier; they do little for leveling on their own.

How this is made: a typical character at each level (Classic-like stats, quest greens for gear) pulling same-level mobs one at a time, with downtime counted. It is an early version, refined as players’ combat logs measure what each talent really does. Weapon assumed: daggers.